27 odpovědí na toto téma

[sloupik]

Ahoj, chci se zeptat jestli by mi někdo neporadil se špatným zobrazováním html kódů? Respektive nerozkódováním do správného formátu. Asi 90% listingů, zakódovaných původně do HTML jazyka, nahraných do mého Garmina Oregon 300 se zobrazuje velice nečitelně. Nebo je to spíše problém obecně turistických navigací? Děkuji Jan "Sloupik" Sloup

[petegeo]

Je to pouzivanim "ceskych znaku" v textech listingu ownery. Pokud by vsichni dal psali listingy bez diakritiky, bylo by to pro vsechny uzivatele GPS lepsi... Nicmene bez ruznych podpurnych SW, kterymi nejprve pred nahranim do GPS udelas prevod tech souboru si nepomuzes. S tim pak souvisi i to, ze nemuzes pouzivat uz jen to klasicke Send to GPS primo v listingu, ale musis nainstalovat a rozchodit spousta dalsiho SW pro spravu, udrzbu, prevody a nahravani listingu do GPS. A pritom kdyby se owneri drzeli zasady psat listing bez diakritiky, zustalo vse "jednoduche"...

[T.M.S. family]

Myslím, že se nepodaří přesvědčit ownery, aby nepoužívali diakritiku. Já jsem se s problémem vypořádal pomocí GSAKu, který při nahrávání GPX souborů dekóduje HTML entity. Pak jsou všechny listingy v Oregonu bez problémů čitelné.

[Rufuc]

A pokud bys přivítal nějakou neplacenou variantu oproti GSAKu, tak si stáhni GeoGet a najdi si na těchto stránkách makro gpx for newest farmin nabo jak se jmenuje

[sloupik]

Díky kluci! Nějak si už snad poradím...

[klama]

Tento programcek by ti mal pomoct
Stiahni si program
Jednoducho otvoris original gpx a ulozis upraveny gpx, original subor sa nezmeni...

[SYSI007]

Podnet k oprave byl zaslani pre webovy formular na Garmin support v UK (Patek 11-cerven-2010).

When uploading GPX file from www.geocaching.com/ in czech language and visualize it in Oregon 550t, it does not show some of the czech letters and sometimes even gaps, see example below: 1) instead of "povazovani" with kook above z i see "považovani" 2) instead of "vas" with long a I see "vá" 3) instead of gap between words I see " " This makes me crazy as the device cost me about 600USD, premium account at geocaching.com cost me another 30USD and I would definitelly expect it to work. As far as I could hear it is general communicater plugin issue which cause the sam e issue also with Oregon and other Garmin GPS devices. The geocommunity is getting rather upset with this mulfunction which should be easy to fix.


GARMIN odpovedel 18-cerven-2010

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Odpoved GRAMINU zaslana 18-cerven-2010

Yes, I confirm the described issue is still an issue (the cache description example attached). To be able to use the expensive GPS for the purpose I have purchased it I have meanwhile developed code that removes all the HTML entities codes that your device does not recognize. Based on your answer and estimate of issue fix lead time I will decide whether to make this web page (php) application public to all Czech users or not (see snapshot attached).

>>nahled pripravovane stranka aplikace pro hromadnou opravu GPX primo v GPS

THE SHAME OF GARMIN

Tato stranka je venovana vsem uzivatelum GPS Garmin urcenym pro bezpapirovy Geocaching, kteri jsou stejne jako ja zklamani neschpnosti pristroje spravne prelozit HTML kody nekterych specialnich znaku/pismen. S pomoci skriptu na teto strance nyni muzete tyto znaky nahradit v popisu vybrane kesky a tim vyznamne zlepsit citelnost popisu.

[Consolador]

Nedávno se s tímto problémem roztrhl pytel a tuším, že nějaký moderátor tu hodil odkaz na jedno udělátko, které doteď úspěšně používám: sosám keše do GPX a tento fajl pak jen během vteřiny proženu programkem gpx4garmin (stačí zadat do googlu) a problém je vyřešen.

[S474N]

Jenom pridavam odkaz na ten programek:
http://www.jha.cz/ge...ing/gpx4garmin/

[SYSI007]

programek je jedna vec ale funkcnost pristroje za 12tisic je druha a dle me ta podstatna; proste nemohu jen tak udat 12tisic a pak si pomahat jak mohu - je to ostuda a Garmin at mi za moje penize doda co sliboval

nasleduje moje dalsi komunikace s Garmin podporou

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From: Product.Support@garmin.com [mailto:product.support@garmin.com]
Sent: Tuesday, June 22, 2010 10:25 AM
Subject: RE: GPX file unreadable in Czech language (KMM17104090I15977L0KM)

Dear Karel,

Thank you for contacting Garmin Europe. Unfortunately we don't understand what the problem is. Can you please explain in more details and provide example screenshots of the geocache on the computer to go with the picture you've sent us of what you see on the machine. Please tell us what cache it is so tha we can test it for ourselves.

Kind regards,

Mark Beckett , Garmin Europe


ODPOVED 22. cervna 2010

Hi Mark,

I have attached the GPS screenshot to my previous e-mail. However, I resend it now.

As for the issue itself, please, go to http://www.geocaching.com and search e.g. geocache for GC29JHM. Note, the description of this cache is in Czech language which has some specific letters compare to English. Then take any Garmin GPS with geocaching support (best the same what I have - Oregon 550t), connect it to your PC and click "Send to My GPS" button.

Providing you have Premium membership (cost 30USD plus tax), GPX file containing co-ordinates, cache description, logs etc will be transferred to GPS.
Now disconnect GPS from your PC, switch it on, go to geocaching application and navigate to GC29JHM geocache. You should be able to see the content of downloaded GPX file in your GPS now. When reading the description of GC29JHM geocache, you will get the text 1457.bmp attached. Unless you are expert on HTML codes you cant read it, can you ?

Note, GPS does not decode only Czech entities - special Czech letters. It does not recognize also standard html codes e.g. gap ( )
Please, give it try and let me know in case of any question.

[S474N]

SYSI007: to je jak v tom vtipu, kde se bavi hluchej s blbym, co? Zkus jim to jeste vic vysvetlit, treba s tim fakt neco udelaji.

[ykul]

díky moc za odkaz na prográmek, myslel jsem si, že jsem v tom sám 2 SYSI007: hodne trpelivosti! drzim palce!

[SYSI007]

Garminu napsal 23-June-2010

Thank you for the information it has been very helpful. The HTML code in the cache description isn't decoded or read by the Garmin devices and it was never intended to. Therefore this is not a fault. The Garmin doesn't have the ability to decode or read HTML.

The inablility to display some czech characters (e.g. š) in the cache information isn't a fault with the Garmin device it's a fault in the creation of the gpx file which is transferred to the device. My reasoning for this is that if you use the "GPX file" button to export the cache to a GPX file and then open open eth GPX file using notepad the same character errors are in the GPX file. Therefore I suggest you contact Groundspeak about it as it's their website that generates the GPX file. Our device cannot correct an error that is transferred to it.

Odpoved Garminu 23-June-2010

I am disappointed with your obvious lie. Your intention was to allow paperless goecaching, allowing import of GPX file. Unreadable file (whatever format it is) does not allow me to do what you promise and all sales channels repeated, i.e. do paperless geocaching. What is tough to swallow is that I have discovered this issue only after paying 30USD+tax for premium account which you even encourage me to do so !
SHAME, SHAME, SHAME !!!
Your intention is pretty clear to me, just follow User's manual Oregon 550t, page 23 - Clicking to www.garmin.com/geocache in selected text you get to "Geocaching with Garmin" desription that says:
Go Paperless
Some of our more popular outdoor devices support paperless geocaching – allowing you to send locations directly to the unit without having to manually enter your coordinates. With paperless geocaching, you’ll have cache descriptions, ratings, and recent log info stored directly on your device – so there’s no need to take paper printouts along with you. All you need is a premium account1 at geocaching.com and a compatible handheld device. As an added benefit, you can store up to 5,000 caches and their descriptions, hints and recent attempts directly on your Garmin handheld – saving time and resources. It’s another great way to help you log more caches in less time!

Please, note the highlighted text.
I agree that the GPX files at Groundspeak are generated some strange way and I will definitely contact them too. However, I am sure Groundspeak was here before you released Oregon 550t and will be here even later without taking care of your way of advertising your device. You should fulfil what you promised or either warn your future customers about this issue (paperless geocaching without readable description in some countries) or adjust your sw the way GPS can handle any GPX format coming out of the Groundspeak pages.
All this communication is published at Czech version of geocaching pages


Garmin odpovedel 25-June-2010

I have explained the situation to you. The Oregon was never designed to read and decode HTML. The problem with the Czech Characters is caused by the geocaching.com website. The website exports the data with the incorrect characters already in place. The > > Oregon can only display on the screen what it is sent by the geocaching.com website. Please contact Groundspeak about this problem.

I have looked into this for you thoroughly and given you honest and truthful answers to your questions. If you refuse to accept those answers that is down to you.


Odpoved Garmin 25-June-2010

lets believe you stop to lie in your marketing materials then and update them soon. I repeat, it is not about HTML. It is about "paperless geocaching".

My understanding is that none of the Garmin supports "paperless geocaching". My plan is to state this truth in top20 Czech/Slovak eshops selling Oregon, Dakota etc, so Czech/Slovaks knows what you say is not to be trusted. For those who already purchased your device and cant read the text related to cachegame, special webpage with fix application will be introduced soon.

I still believe that simple fix of your communicator would do the same as my fix application. However, it seems you (Garmin) have decided to give it up. Understand.



Poslano na Groundspeak 28-Jun-2010

Garmin has blamed you that GPX file format generated from your pages is wrong which is the reason why I cant use their GPS for paperless geocaching, the solely reason what I purchased Garmin GPS for. The whole story is in the attached e-mail.

As this is the concern for many other Czech/Slovak disappointed Garmin users, I broadcast this communication in full via geocaching.cz.

Do you think you could provide me your statement that I can share with Garmin ?

[S474N]

Me to prijde, ze tam jsou snad zamestnani sami idioti. V manualu je jasne napsano o bezpapirovem geocachingu, ty jim to x-krat zminujes a ten debil furt dokola toci o tom, ze Garmin nepodporuje HTML i presto, ze nejde o podporu HTML, ale ceskych znaku v listingu. Nejhorsi na tom je, ze spravit to dle meho nazoru nemuze byt az takovy problem.

[raptor1000]

) ale asertivní jsou dokonale, garmin-boys

[sobikovi]

Ber to tak, že Garmin podporuje to, co podporuje v listingu oficiálně gc.com a to české a jiné entity nejsou... To, že to server vezme ještě neznamená, že to oficiálně podporuje... Chápu Garmin i GS...

[MZ-CZ]

jestlipak někoho napadlo udělat jednoduchý test ... vím, že tu budu minimálně za satanistu, ale řek bych, že problém s českými znaky asi nebude tak moc na straně garminu ...

[knoflikari]

potrebuji nakopnout spravnym smerem, jsem PM vytvorim PQ ale nejde mi udelat vic jak 1000 krabicek, oregon 300 by jich mel umet 2000 nebo se pletu ? jak tedy udelat PQ s vice keskama, nebo nahrat 2 soubory ? Kdyz kouknu na waypointy v GPS tak je zaplnena na 99procent.

[S474N]

knoflikari: ano, pochopitelne ze musis udelat vice PQ. Omezeni je 500 kesi mailem a 1000 ke stahnuti. U GPS jsi podle typu pochopitelne omezen, prave proto existuji ruzne programy (jako napriklad GEOGET), ktere slouzi jakozto databaze kesi, kde si sam vyexportuje napriklad tu oblast, ktera te zajima a teprve az pote ten GPX nahrajes do GPS.

[gord]

Oregon (vlastne Garmini GPS obecne) ma omezeni na pocet waypointu! Kese jsou nen jeden z nekolika druhy WP (parkoviste, stage, question...). Takze 1000 kesi klidne da i vice nez 2000 WP a pak s tim uz GPS zaplnis. Kdyz si vytvoris vice PQ a z nich nahrajes jen kese a n WP, tak jich tam ty 2000 dostanes. Ale zadne vitezstvi to nebude